Former high-ranking intelligence official David Grusch has made waves all summer, charging in public and classified settings that the US government has hidden crashed non-human spacecraft from both the public and, illegally, from Congress.
Grusch added to his sworn testimony and classified whistleblower complaint in a new interview with BBC radio Thursday — describing his claims of a classified UFO reverse-engineering program and UFO-related deaths as ‘an act of truth to power.’
He warned that America’s alleged top secret UFO portfolio opens ‘a Pandora’s Box for potential military weapons development-type reverse engineering activities.’
And, for the first time, Grusch’s attorney in his active whistleblower complaint, Charles McCullough, also came forward to speak publicly on his client’s allegations.
McCullough, the former Inspector General of the US Intelligence Community (ICIG) appointed by President Obama in 2011, told BBC radio that Congress needs more information on UFOs ‘to properly oversee things going on in the executive branch.’
While Grusch has asserted he has ‘firsthand access’ to some evidence in support of his claims, neither Grusch nor McCullough has said that the UFO whistleblower has seen crashed craft or recovered ‘non-human intelligences’ with his own eyes.
David Grusch, a former high-ranking intelligence official, testified under oath last week to Congress regarding his knowledge of secret UFO programs. To his right, Grusch’s lawyer, former US Intelligence Community watchdog Charles McCullough (light blue tie), watched on
‘Our government relies on congressional oversight, the checks and balances of congressional oversight,’ McCullough told BBC Radio 4’s The World Tonight this past Thursday.
‘David’s allegation, at its base, is essentially that Congress does not have access to the information it needs to properly oversee things going on in the executive branch,’ McCullough said.
McCullough — who served as Obama’s top legal watchdog over America’s spy agencies, after a decade with the FBI — also confirmed that his client Grusch did, in fact, brief both House and Senate intelligence committees behind closed doors.
‘He’s briefed both of the intel committees,’ McCullough told BBC radio, ‘and he’s had a two-hour hearing with two-hours of testimony last week.’
And the intelligence committees appear to have taken Grusch’s testimony quite seriously.
Last month, Senate intel member Chuck Schumer, the Democratic Senate majority leader, in partnership with Republican Senators Marco Rubio of Florida and Mike Rounds of South Dakota, led efforts to appoint a nine-member review panel to assess all classified government records on UFOs.
Critics, however, have been quick to point to a statement made by McCullough’s law firm in June, which appeared to dramatically distance the firm from aspects of the news media’s reporting on Grusch and their client’s own extraordinary claims.
While critics speculated that McCullough might have regretted his involvement with Grusch, the former civil servant nevertheless has stood by his client — quite literally while attending the House oversight committee’s UFO hearing last week.
Grusch, a former Department of Defense official, first appeared on camera for NewsNation to tell his story of deeply covert US programs that he says possess ‘intact and partially intact’ craft of non-human origin
‘It is unlikely that Grusch, speaking to Congress under oath, would perjure himself so brazenly over such specific, falsifiable facts,’ another past Obama-appointee, former Defense Department official Marik von Rennenkampff, wrote in The Hill this week.
‘Particularly with his high-profile attorney sitting directly behind him.’
If Grusch knowingly provided false material to the ICIG in his formal complaint, the UFO whistleblower could face a fine of up to $10,000 for the criminal offense, under Title 18 § 1001 of the US criminal code, or worse, up to five years in prison, or both.
Such penalties raise intriguing, unresolved questions about both Grusch and the firsthand witnesses whom he says he has referred to the current US Intelligence Community Inspector General.
‘Given the significant penalties for making false statements to an inspector general,’ von Rennenkampff wrote, ‘it is extremely unlikely that multiple high-level, highly-cleared officials would falsely claim to have first-hand knowledge of myths and rumors.’
Ryan Graves, a former pilot, Air Force and intelligence agency veteran David Grusch and Navy veteran fighter pilot Commander David Fravor testified under oath that they had firsthand UFO encounters or knowledge about secret government programs involving ‘non-human’ tech
The US Navy’s so-called 2015 GIMBAL UFO video (above) taken with an F/A-18’s infrared targeting pod, infamously depicted a mysterious object flying in restricted airspace off the Atlantic coast. The airspace had been cordoned off for use by Naval aviators during training
Grusch waxed philosophical when asked by BBC Radio 4 why he chose to come forward with his extraordinary accusations of federal government malfeasance on the UFO issue.
‘I believe the US government should be held accountable for potentially overclassifying or misclassifying basic science,’ Grusch told the BBC.
‘I found that to be very important, for the public at large to understand, you know, their place in the cosmos, their place in the universe.’
‘It boils down to a sense of duty,’ Grusch said, ‘an act of truth to power.’
Pictured: Supposedly a dead alien receiving an autopsy following the Roswell incident
While Grusch is still forbidden from disclosing certain information, per the terms of his Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review agreement with the Pentagon, he did manage to clarify and reemphasize key facts in his new interview.
‘There’s certain things that I have firsthand access to that I can’t publicly discuss at this time,’ Grusch said.
‘However, myself and other colleagues interviewed 40 individuals, both current and former highly distinguished intelligence and military personnel that were specifically on these [UFO crash retrieval] programs.’
‘And those that were willing I directed to the Intelligence Community Inspector General. So, the Inspector General was able to interview these people that do have direct firsthand information.’
Grusch noted that the classified UFO program has existed in some form or another for over 89 years and that it leveraged secrecy protocols first put in place for the Manhattan Project: the top secret US military effort that built the first atomic bomb during World War II.
‘They weren’t sure how ontologically shocking it was gonna be to the world populace,’ Grusch said. ‘So, they decided to keep it under wraps for many years.’